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VG1-5 update more hand fitting

With this post we are chatting about hand fitting the magazine to the VG1-5 housings. There is a wide tolerance variation between MP-44 magazines.  The housing is then set for the largest width magazine  this allows any magazine to work. The magazine catch is also checked and fitted to insure proper set up.

 

One of many steps to insure proper fit and operation.

MERRY CHRISTMAS from Gun Lab

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Another gunsmithing site “Rifleshooter”

I have been reading this site for quite some time now. In fact it is one of the few sites that I actually print out and save hard copies of his projects. I find his write up’s to be well done and articulate. I just wish my photographs were as good as his. You should really stop by and have a read. So head over and expect to spend some time. http://rifleshooter.com/

Museums or private collections

Recently there have been a couple of post concerning small arms and there disposition.

Ian at forgotten weapons.

http://www.forgottenweapons.com/should-guns-be-in-museums-or-private-collections-video/

And Matt at

http://www.historicalfirearms.info/post/135341711584/how-should-historically-important-firearms-be

They both had some interesting things to say about the subject. I have taken a different approach. Here at Gun Lab we have always felt actions speak louder then words. We not only chat about small arms but also talk about building them and the equipment to build them.

A while back Trevor from the Royal Armouries was at the house. He had come to the states on a mission to find some items missing from their collection. A couple of specific items he had wanted were some Enfields that had been converted by Turkey to 8×57. Recently a collector had passed away that had them in his collection. After spending a great deal of time with the executors and having no luck dealing with them he stopped by the house for place to stay and a cold beer. It was at this time he mention what the trip was for. My response was to go into the gun room and find them. After a long discussion about would I be willing to sell them to the Royal Armouries my answer was no but I would give it to them instead.

So with the on going discussions and paper work requirements first with Trevor then with Jonathan the two rifles have been sent to an exporter to ship to the Royal Armouries in time for the anniversary of Gallipoli.

Now most people would think I am nuts for giving away a couple of rare pieces. Here is my reasoning that I am doing this. There is not another working museum in the world like the Royal Armouries. I have been able to examine,study and photograph weapons, that while here in the states I have no access to.

There are some exceptional museums here in the states.

The Smithsonian, I have been there but no access to the reserve collection and not allowed to disassemble or photograph.

The NRA museum, have not been there yet however on the list.

The Cody museum. Nice museum. Everything was behind glass and I was unable to photograph any other way. No access to the archival records.

The Springfield armory museum. Have been trying for over 20 years to gain access to photograph a couple of pieces with no luck. Most if not all of the collection boxed away.

Aberdeen. Was there once when it was open now it is boxed away. Unable to photograph except behind glass.

Even our own local museum here in Phoenix. Everything is behind glass and that is the only way you can take a picture of it.

During a conversation with Ian from forgotten weapons his concern was if they went to England there was a chance that the law would change that would require deactivation. My response was what is the difference where it is deactivated where I can still study it or it is boxed away and I can never study it.

I generally spend a couple of weeks at the Royal Armouries every couple of years. I pay the fee to go, cheap for what you are gaining. Photograph and study small arms to my heart’s content. Spend time at the library where I can spend hours reading and studying. This is what a museum should be. A place to study. A place to learn.

To understand the scope of what I have gained all you have to do is look at the pictures on this site. Or you can go to Forgotten Weapons http://www.forgottenweapons.com/  as I have given thousands of pictures to Ian for his use. You can also see my stuff at Rick’s site http://ar180s.com/ and at Matt’s site http://www.historicalfirearms.info/

For me the study of small arms is important. I also want everyone to enjoy it in my pursuit.

I treat my own collect as the Royal Armouries looks at there collection. A working collection.

The Royal Armouries is an experience that every gun designer,writer and historian must see. It is where portions of my collection, that they don’t already have, will go. It is where my donations go. It is this museum, you as people of the gun, should donate money and items to.

 

More work accomplished on the VG1-5

In this video we are milling the hole for the magazine release button. A basic but very important operation as it allows for proper alignment between the magazine catch and the button that operates it.

F.N.A.-B model 1943 submachine gun

Of all the submachine guns that I have played with or examine I find the F.N.A.-B model 1943 to be one of the very interesting ones. This submachine gun was design and made by Fabbrica Nazionale d’Armie in Brescia,Italy between the years 1943 and 44. The entire receiver was machined out of bar stock making it very costly to build.

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IMG_0194sMachined magazine housing. A good view of the magazine housing release.

IMG_0238csThe magazine folded forward.

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IMG_0237csA view of the inside of the lower receiver and the locking area at the front of the receiver.

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IMG_0230csIt is interesting how the entire fire control group is attached to the upper portion of the receiver and the lower housing is just a shell.

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IMG_0244csRemoving the recoil spring

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Machined extractor.

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IMG_0248cEven the top cover is machined

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IMG_0197cBasic Beretta magazine

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IMG_0186csThe rotating shoulder stock.

IMG_0184csBarrel shroud.

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IMG_0181csThe rear sight and machined front section of the upper receiver.

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Now on to the Bolt. A basic Kiraly operating system.

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IMG_0211csRear bolt assembly

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IMG_0222csBack of the forward bolt.

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A great deal of time was spent machining this weapon out. It is a beautiful weapon.

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SAR Gun Show final report

Well the show was a great success. The party was a great success. Fun was had by all. Now on to the details.

I was able to obtain an additional 60 barrels for the VG1-5, 05 and 06 projects.

Books,Books and more Books. I am a book nut and will buy books over guns all most any time. Here is the run down of books new and old that I found.

I did not have this one in the collect and one day I will have an Adams revolver in the reference collection.

scan_Page_1sAnother Bruce Canfield book.

scan_Page_2sI actually have not seen this one before

scan_Page_3cThis is a great translation of a Russian manual. You can get this manual for 30.00 plus shipping from Martin Ivie at ivie.martin@att.net

scan_Page_4sMy copy of Single shot rifles finally gave up and I needed a new copy.

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scan_Page_6sI remember when this book first came out and I had no money to buy it.

scan_Page_7sI enjoy Bruce Canfield’s books and get his new one when they come out.

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A couple of interesting items like a Stoner M63 bolt and extractor, no I do not own a Stoner just like to study parts.

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Had a great group show up at the party. Rick from http://ar180s.com/ .

Greg from http://mg34.com/.

Ian from http://www.forgottenweapons.com/

Dolf Goldsmith and

Eric from bravo company to name a few.

Italian AZ-49 submachine gun

I was going through some of the pictures that I have taken in the past and found these. This sub machine gun was made by S.A.M.T. of Rome. It is reported to have been design by Toni and Zorzoli Giandoso in 1944. Never being produced in quantity, approximately 6000 were made,  it is none the less an interesting combination of Sten, M-3 grease gun and Beretta.

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You can see the grip safety that was used on the magazine housing.

IMG_0815csA close up of the back end with it’s Sten like housing.

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IMG_0811ccsAs see with the stock folded.

The tooling was sold at the end of the war to Burma and made there.

 

 

Japax wire EDM update

Work around Gun Lab actually is accomplished, in this case the Japax wire EDM. I spent some time on Saturday changing out bad push buttons on the control circuit board. There were three bad switches and we had received the replacements during the SAR gun show so this was my first day that I had to complete the task. Once the control board was re-installed it was time to test the EDM.

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Here is the video of it wire operation test run.

This photo shows the wire running through the machine. I still need to order s few small parts so I can close up the whole thing and get on to the next step. Running the water system and powering up the cutting circuit.

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The fun that was involved in threading that wire through all those small holes was way to much fun. I am so looking forward to cutting out inside pockets.

Thanks again to Brett at McWilliams sales and service for there assistance. You can find them here: http://www.mcwilliamsedm.com/index.html

Need help identifying part

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