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		<title>Timberline Hawk survival rifle</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2016 08:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Not much is known about the company Timer Line Hawk. So this is as much of a history as I could gather. The registered agent of the company was John A. Mc Gerty and the filing date was March 29,1983. It was a company formed initially by four men to take over the assets of [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much is known about the company Timer Line Hawk. So this is as much of a history as I could gather. The registered agent of the company  was John A. Mc Gerty and the filing date was March 29,1983. It was a company formed initially by four men to take over the assets of the old Armalite company when they closed their doors. Initially they did the warranty work for Armalite on the AR-180 and 18. What is not generally known is that they also design and built guns other than the AR180 series rifles. This article is about such a rifle. This is the 2 shot rotating barrel 22lr survival rifle.</p>
<p>There are a few draw backs to this rifle. The first is that the point of aim is different for the two barrels. The second is that you have to be careful when loading as it is easy to get the cartridge not properly placed to allow the action to close.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2213cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6556" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2213cs-300x77.jpg" alt="dsc_2213cs" width="300" height="77" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2215s.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6557" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2215s-300x200.jpg" alt="dsc_2215s" width="300" height="200" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2231s.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6568" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2231s-300x200.jpg" alt="dsc_2231s" width="300" height="200" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2258s.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6575" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2258s-300x200.jpg" alt="dsc_2258s" width="300" height="200" /></a>The side of the rear barrel support. You can see the pins that pinned in the barrels to the support.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Feb-2-2016-001cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6572" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Feb-2-2016-001cs-277x300.jpg" alt="GE DIGITAL CAMERA" width="277" height="300" /></a>The barrel release latch on the bottom of the frame.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2236cws.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6569" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2236cws-300x200.jpg" alt="dsc_2236cws" width="300" height="200" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2227cws.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6567" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2227cws-300x102.jpg" alt="dsc_2227cws" width="300" height="102" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2225cws.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6566" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2225cws-300x126.jpg" alt="dsc_2225cws" width="300" height="126" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2224cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6565" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2224cs-300x100.jpg" alt="dsc_2224cs" width="300" height="100" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2222s.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6564" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2222s-300x200.jpg" alt="dsc_2222s" width="300" height="200" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2221cws.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6563" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2221cws-281x300.jpg" alt="dsc_2221cws" width="281" height="300" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2220cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6562" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2220cs-237x300.jpg" alt="dsc_2220cs" width="237" height="300" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2219cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6561" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2219cs-253x300.jpg" alt="dsc_2219cs" width="253" height="300" /></a>Looking at the end you can see the machined area for the extractor.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2245cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6574" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2245cs-300x284.jpg" alt="dsc_2245cs" width="300" height="284" /></a>The barrels are actually AR-7 barrel liners.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2240s.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6573" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2240s-300x200.jpg" alt="dsc_2240s" width="300" height="200" /></a>The retaining notch is cut in behind the made in USA. Looking at the machining of this notch you can see that these were prototype weapons only.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2217c.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6559" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2217c-300x164.jpg" alt="dsc_2217c" width="300" height="164" /></a>An interesting logo used by Timberline Hawk.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2216cw.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6558" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2216cw-298x300.jpg" alt="dsc_2216cw" width="298" height="300" /></a>The storage tube that was also the stock. To be used to store survival items.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2218cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6560" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2218cs-245x300.jpg" alt="dsc_2218cs" width="245" height="300" /></a>The rubber cap that acted as a butt plate</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Feb-2-2016-006s.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6571" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Feb-2-2016-006s-300x225.jpg" alt="GE DIGITAL CAMERA" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2359cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6578" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2359cs-300x132.jpg" alt="dsc_2359cs" width="300" height="132" /></a>The rifle taken apart and next to it&#8217;s storage bag.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Feb-2-2016-011s.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6576" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Feb-2-2016-011s-300x225.jpg" alt="GE DIGITAL CAMERA" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2366cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6579" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2366cs-300x111.jpg" alt="dsc_2366cs" width="300" height="111" /></a>As it would be stored in the back pack.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2368s.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6580" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/DSC_2368s-300x200.jpg" alt="dsc_2368s" width="300" height="200" /></a>This is a limited prototype weapon that I don&#8217;t think ever went into serious production. The number on this rifle is 42 and it is the only one that I have ever seen or heard about. There were a few spare barrels assemblies made, I have one in my collection.</p>
<p>This rifle came out during a time period when small light weight survival rifles were all the rage.</p>
<p>I want to thank Pete, a friend of Gun Lab, for letting me photograph his very rare rifle.</p>
<p>Weapons man has an interesting write up on the original derringer that was the initial idea for this rifle here.</p>
<p>http://weaponsman.com/?p=34197</p>
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		<title>Full auto pistol part 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2016 08:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In our first installment. http://gunlab.net/full-auto-pistols-prototypes-part-1/, we looked at a rather boxy looking full auto pistol. This post is about the weapon that was built for patent number 3,803,976 that was issued to Henk Visser.</p> <p></p> <p>These are the drawings from the patent.</p> <p></p> <p>With the front grip down and ready to fire full auto.</p> <p>Right [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our first installment. http://gunlab.net/full-auto-pistols-prototypes-part-1/, we looked at a rather boxy looking full auto pistol. This post is about the weapon that was built for patent number 3,803,976 that was issued to Henk Visser.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-128c.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6229" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-128c-300x222.jpg" alt="visser 128c" width="300" height="222" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-127c.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6228" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-127c-300x259.jpg" alt="visser 127c" width="300" height="259" /></a>These are the drawings from the patent.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/US3803976-2.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6234" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/US3803976-2-204x300.png" alt="US3803976-2" width="204" height="300" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/US3803976-1.png"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6233" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/US3803976-1-204x300.png" alt="US3803976-1" width="204" height="300" /></a>With the front grip down and ready to fire full auto.</p>
<p>Right side view</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-125c.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6220" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-125c-300x245.jpg" alt="visser 125c" width="300" height="245" /></a>left side view. you can see that the magazine release button is located the same as an early 1951 Beretta pistol. The grip panels look like the Cz model 52 pistol</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-126c.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6227" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-126c-300x235.jpg" alt="visser 126c" width="300" height="235" /></a>Both side views with the slide removed</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-119c.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6221" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-119c-300x198.jpg" alt="visser 119c" width="300" height="198" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-121c.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6223" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-121c-300x204.jpg" alt="visser 121c" width="300" height="204" /></a>A look inside the fire control group</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-123c.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6231" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-123c-300x155.jpg" alt="visser 123c" width="300" height="155" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-120c1.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6230" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-120c1-300x112.jpg" alt="visser 120c" width="300" height="112" /></a>Bottom side of the slide</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-124c.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6224" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-124c-300x114.jpg" alt="visser 124c" width="300" height="114" /></a>The magazine right and left side views.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-130c.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6226" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-130c-171x300.jpg" alt="visser 130c" width="171" height="300" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-129c.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6225" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/visser-129c-214x300.jpg" alt="visser 129c" width="214" height="300" /></a>I am not sure but I think that these are proprietary magazines for this pistol only. I can not remember seeing them anywhere else.</p>
<p>This pistol had a nice feel to it and was easy to operate.</p>
<p>Many thanks to Daniel E. Watters for locating the patent for us all.</p>
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		<title>Full auto pistols prototypes part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2016 08:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chuck]]></dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>In the world of full auto pistols some stand out a great deal. The Mauser Schnellfeuer is probably the most famous.</p> <p></p> <p>Following it are the Russian Stechkin.</p> <p></p> <p>Then the Astra model 904 and a variety of Star pistols.</p> <p>This is one of the many prototypes that has been made over the years that [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the world of full auto pistols some stand out a great deal. The Mauser Schnellfeuer is probably the most famous.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mauser-712-automatic-pistol-schnellfeuer-763-mm.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6166" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/mauser-712-automatic-pistol-schnellfeuer-763-mm-300x225.jpg" alt="mauser-712-automatic-pistol-schnellfeuer-763-mm" width="300" height="225" /></a></p>
<p>Following it are the Russian Stechkin.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/aps_04.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6167" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/aps_04-300x102.jpg" alt="aps_04" width="300" height="102" /></a></p>
<p>Then the Astra model 904 and a variety of Star pistols.</p>
<p>This is one of the many prototypes that has been made over the years that actually never went past a single model. I had the opportunity to examine and photograph this weapon a few years back.</p>
<p>A right hand view</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-097cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6159" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-097cs-300x213.jpg" alt="visser 097cs" width="300" height="213" /></a>Left hand view</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-096cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6158" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-096cs-300x198.jpg" alt="visser 096cs" width="300" height="198" /></a>Moving the front grip down converted it to full auto</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-098cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6160" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-098cs-300x216.jpg" alt="visser 098cs" width="300" height="216" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-099cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6161" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-099cs-300x184.jpg" alt="visser 099cs" width="300" height="184" /></a>A view of the pistol and magazine.</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-100cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6162" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-100cs-300x253.jpg" alt="visser 100cs" width="300" height="253" /></a>Close up of the magazine</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-101cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6163" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-101cs-300x200.jpg" alt="visser 101cs" width="300" height="200" /></a>The back of the magazine</p>
<p><a href="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-102cs.jpg"><img class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-6164" src="http://gunlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/visser-102cs-300x200.jpg" alt="visser 102cs" width="300" height="200" /></a>The things I remember most about this pistol is how heavy it was and how uncomfortable the grip felt.</p>
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