Comments on: The Winchester self loading rifle part 1

By: Larry Dyess

Larry Dyess — Sat, 03 Mar 2018 09:24:08 +0000

I was given a model 63 22 cal. Simi-auto, load thur the rear. An old man I worked for gave it to me. It is smooth stock the bolt was broken. The tooth that catches firing pin was broke off. Took bolt to a machinist/gun Smith, sad to say I never seen him or the gun bolt again. Now 30 years later I want it fixed. Where would I purchase a bolt for it? Or do they make parts for it any more?’

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 19 Jun 2015 20:20:42 +0000

Worth a look, if you haven’t seen the original 1901 patent for what became the Win. 1903.

Good drawings.

Google Patents search: 681481

By: Chuck

Chuck — Wed, 13 May 2015 01:35:12 +0000

I am working on part 2 and hope to have it posted later in the week.

By: Jim Sturges

Jim Sturges — Tue, 12 May 2015 21:04:45 +0000

Interesting series. There were several center fire rifles to follow.
I have a Mod 1905 in caliber .32 WSL. It can be considered the “grand father of the M1 Carbine”. The fire control groups are similar.
Later was chambered in .35WSL (Mod 1907) and .401 (Mod 1910). Unfortunately all were Blowback and the cartridges were weak and the guns (and Operation rod) got heavier as the calibers went up.
They stuck around until the 30’s. The long recoil Remington 8 & 81 could handle more powerful cartridges and lead to eventual decline of the Winchester center fires.
Semi-autos were new in the early 1900’s, There were no rules were all the controls should go. The charging handle at the end of the forearm was quite convenient.