This post deals with 2 Webley mark IV pistols. Both of them were issued to the Singapore police force. Both of these pistols are commercial versions and show no military markings.
The first is a standard mark IV webley.
The second version is the police model. This pistol incorporated a hammer safety. With this pistol the safety can only be engaged with the hammer down. The pistol can still be open to load or unload with the safety on. Production of the Police model ended in 1970.
Top strap markings
The safety pushed to the safe position.
Close up of the barrel proof marks
Typical markings showing the model and proofing of the pistol
You can see the Singapore police markings and the red dot on the safety indicating the weapon is ready to rife.
Rack markings painted on the butt of the grip
A quick look at then side by side. showing the frame differences.
Notice the hump design on the back of the frame and the difference in grip design.
This pistol came about for usage by the Mexican military through a presidential decree in 1893 by president Porfirio Diaz.
The pistol was built in Liege, Belgium by the Pieper firm. It uses a gas seal design where the cylinder moves forward to seal it during firing. This is the same concept as the Nagant revolver. It is a seven shot double and single action revolver. The total contract was for 5000 pistols.
Hard rubber plastic grips with H.Pieper Patent markings
The rear of the cylinder showing the rebate area for the rims
The front of the cylinder for the gas seal
Lanyard attached on the pistol grip
Cylinder latch. Looks like a Colt design. EJERCITO MEXICANO stamped on the side of the frame , top strap and cylinder.
Markings on the cylinder
This rifle was on the last Rock Island auction. Unfortunately I was not the winner of the bid. However, it is a beautiful example of an interesting piece.
It would make a great addition to an Italian or cut away collection.
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In the Gun Lab reference collect is a Nagant target revovler. This one is a Model 2 MTs-4. This pistol came about when shooters complained about the balance of the original MTs-4, first model.
In the ten years,1956 through 1966, that the various versions of the MTs-4 were produces approximately 8,200 were made. Making it a nice addition to any Nagant collection.
You can see the movement of the cylinder when the hammer is cocked.
Right side for the pistol grip.
The front sight is adjustable for elevation.
There is no ejector rod or carrier. The cartridges would have to be removed with an separate tool.
This photo shows the material removed from under the barrel to improve the balance of the pistol. It also allows for clearance for the shorter cylinder axle retaining pin.
A couple of views of the rear sight. The framed was heavily modified to make the new sight.
You can see the clearance of the hammer spur in the grips.
The new rear sight that was built up on the pistol.
A closer look at the rear sight. The rear sight was horizontally adjustable
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While we are on the series of posts dealing with Webley revolvers, this is the next one to chat about. It is basically a standard Webley pistol with commercial proof marks, no acceptance marks and a standard finish.
Interesting stamping marks on the barrel
Top strap stamping
A comparison between a war finish issued pistol and a commercial pistol
Close up of the stamping on the left side of the frame between a issue pistol and a commercial pistol
This is just another interesting piece from the Gun Lab reference collection. This is just one of the weapons used by the Royal Hong Kong Police prior to being disbanded in 1997 when the British turn over Hong Kong to the Chinese. The pistol I am talking about is a Smith and Wesson model 10-7 revolver.
The pistol is a standard Smith and Wesson model 10-7 in 38 special.
Right side view
An interesting mark, G20, on the yolk
You can see the model markings on the frame
The marking on the back strap showing the RHKP stamping and there number
Nothing super special about the pistol just an interesting foot note in history
Work is progressing on the VG1-5. This post is about threading the barrel for the gas piston. In our last post about the barrel we had turn the out side dimensions and cut them for length. http://gunlab.net/vg1-5-update-barrels/
This post is the manual lathe work to do the threading.
Another step toward the final product being completed.
I have always enjoyed collecting and shooting the Webley 38 revolvers. Collecting them has been a challenge. Not because they are scarce but because information is actually hard to come by.
The Webley MkIV 38caliber pistol development started in 1921. This was due to the War Office wanting a smaller and lighter weapon but still have the same as the .455 pistols. It is based upon the MkIII pistol service revolver plus a number of other improvements reducing its weight to 22.25 ounces. After additional trials testing a few more alterations were made. One being changing the grip style to the MkVI type.
Over 100,000 Mark IV were made between 1939 and 1945.
This is a standard model pistol.
You can see that war finish is stamped on the frame. Also the flying bullet logo is stamped on the barrel.
The marking on the top strap.
With the Mark 6 Webley revolver coming about in and being approved for service in May of 1915 it officially became the issue hand gun in British service. You can see the differences between it and the Mk4 revolver that it was suppose to replace. The pistol came with a 6″ barrel and was chambered for the .455 cartridge. The grip style had been changed as well as a minor change to the front sight.
A photo of the right side of the revolver.
Left side of the revolver.
Close up of the markings on the side plate.
You can see that this one has been shaved to accept 45 auto rim or 45 acp with half moon clips.
Mark *VI* stamped on the side.
This is actually one of my favorite revolver to shoot.