Parts wanted and for Sale!

Looking for G-43 fire control parts. Hammer,trigger,sear. This is for one of the projects we are working on. A friend of Gun Lab has helped out with this. Thanks

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VG1-5 Preorder Now Available!

We are now taking reservations for out reproduction VG1-5 rifles! Price is $4000, and they will be ready to ship once ATF gives final approval on the design. The get on the priority list, contact Matt or Greg at Allegheny Arsenal – (814) 362-2642. No payment will be taken until the guns are ready to ship.


Part 2 of the weekend work fest

While Axel worked on the pattern for the stock more was accomplished on the router table.

dsc_2770sAll the drawers have been finished and the top has been glued together, marked out and the moulding cut and fitted. I would have finished the moulding up gut my disk sander


gave it up.

dsc_2816sWith no new pads we had to wait until Monday to buy some new pads.

I wanted 100 grit but all Harbor Freight had was 120.


Got two of them from the wood working store. 100 grit.

dsc_2817sI really want to finish this project so I can get on to making the stocks.

More going on at Gun Lab

With this post I am happy to note that Axel, a friend of gun lab, is back for a visit and as always we put him back to work. And unlike what most people think of me we did actually allow him some time off to go to the local gun show and stores.

This post is about the continuing work that is being done on the VG1-5.

This weekend was spent working on a number of projects by different people and in different shops.

Axel spent most of his time working on making a stock pattern for the rough cut and the finish router work.

Before I go into great detail on making the stock pattern I have to stress that some people just do not like to change there ways. We have a rather complete machine and wood working shop. So when you see the method that the pattern was make it is all Axel.

It started with a wood blank that was roughed out on the old stock fixture plate.

dsc_2786sThis a really scary fixture to use with a 3/4 horse power router especially toward the grip of the stock. Even though there is a bearing riding against the fixture

dsc_2788sit was still an interesting experience.

Axel took the rough shaped stock and fitted it to our test rifle.


A close up of the fit up.

dsc_2791sThen it was off to make a pattern that would make the same thing over and over but still allow for the minor differences that we are going to encounter.

Now this is the point where German stubbornness comes into play. We will just go back to the fact that we do have a couple of nice work shops and in the saw room is a really nice band saw.

dsc_2779sDid I mention that this tool works great on cutting Aluminum?

He did it the old fashion way  and when you don’t have much in the line of tools you use what you have and become expert with them. This is what Axel did.

He started by attaching the stock to the aluminum plate with the two stock screws and then a third point on the stock to firmly hold the blank to the plate.

He then marked out the stock out line.

Then he went to the drill press and drilled about a thousand holes,that may be a little exaggerated, but the number is close.

dsc_2776sThen he put the stock that he previously fitted to the rifle and and spent quite a bit of time, between guns shows and gun store visits, and files everything away that did not look like the stock.



When it was all said and over this is what it looked like.



So now the new process for making the stock will be to lay out the stock with the aluminum pattern, cut the stock out with the wood shop band saw.

dsc_2794sThen using the pattern cut the shape out on the router table using a straight cutter with a ball bearing guide.

dsc_2789sAfter the shape is cut out go back in with a radius cutter to cut the couture.

The final set will be to plug the third hole with a wooden dowel.

dsc_2783sMany thanks to Axel for his help this last weekend and we are a step closer to getting done.

Time in the Fab shop

I was able to clean up part of the fab shop today. I am hoping to get the gas forge up and running shortly. Just a couple of pictures of the forge area.

The new vent installed and the gas forges in place. The forging press needs to be moved about 4 feet to the east.

dsc_2703sThe mechanical hammer I built a couple of years ago. The return spring broke this weekend and now something else to fix.

dsc_2704sOne of two leg vises

dsc_2706sMy old anvil that I got from a dumpster. One day I hope to find one in better condition. A project in the near future to build a better stand for it.



Another weekend come and gone 10-16

Every week starting on Monday I work on  a list for the projects that I want to work on that following weekend.

The list this last week was as follows and in no particular order.

1) finish the router table

2) finish the second anvil

3) Do a number of videos for the site

4) Photograph a number of weapons for upcoming posts

5) finish the hydraulics for the hot forging press

6) work on the control system for the fluting machine

7) fire up the gas forge and beat some metal into submission

8) work on the kitchen and try and wrap it up

So between the excessive work load of last week, not finishing work almost every night until after 8pm and starting at 5am, I needed to write up a number of reports, still not finished. I also needed to work most of Saturday just to catch up. Still not finished with last weeks jobs and it is Sunday night.

The only project that was even started was working on the kitchen. My wife and life partner really would like it completed before the SAR show. Great strides have been taken to accomplish that.

The kitchen has been repainted now that all the moulding around the counters has been edged and finished. The last of the cabinet fronts have been installed. The sink is installed and the dish washer is hooked up, still not usable yet as the insulation blanket was shot and a new one has been ordered.

dsc_2709sI still have a couple of false fronts to make for the stove cabinet and one set of cabinets need to be striped and re-finished. Both minor. The big thing is to make new orifices for the stove to convert it to propane from natural gas.

I guess there is always next weekend for everything else.

making and anvil for friends

This last weekend between working on the kitchen and the router table I started on a project for a couple of friends. Axel is back in country and will be here for awhile and needs some stuff for his new shop and Paul ,from the flintlock site , need an anvil as well.

I have had an old truck at the house that I gave a loan on. Well he can’t be found after a decade so a while back I decided to use it for other things. This is part of what it went to.

I had more fun then you can even imagine taking this front end apart.



Nothing came off easily. Every thing was a battle. starting with the break drum. None of the bolts would come loose without an impact wrench and heat.dsc_2455s

The only way to get the break pads out was to cut them out.


dsc_2456sThe same goes for everything else as well.

dsc_2547sAll the bolts on the drum had to be beaten out with a sledge hammer.


img_1618sAt the end of the day I was left with both drums.

dsc_2560sThe cross member


dsc_2557sAnd a pile of scrap to be used in forging projects.


dsc_2636sNow came the fun part. With Axel’s help I was able top move the cross member to the band saw room and cut it into usable lengths.



Then after some time of the mill I finally cut the first one down to the rough shape necessary to work it into an anvil.dsc_2633s

dsc_2632sThe horn still needs work but that will have to be done with a grinder.


Werndl model 67 rifle

During the Austrian Prussian in 1866 the Austrians took a heck of a beating from the Prussians due to the Dreyese needle gun. The Austrians were still using the excellently designed muzzle loading model 1854 Lorenz rifle. While at the peak of muzzle loading rifle development it was no match against the faster firing Dreyese rifle.

The Austrians decided to adopt a breach loading metallic cartridge rifle. What came about is the Werndl rifle. This weapon shown here today is a M1867 Jeager, light infantry, rifle. The rifle was design by Karel Holub and with Josef Werndl, the director of the Steyrwerks, made the rifle.

This interesting rifle uses a rotating drum action breech.


dsc_1773csTop view of the drum.

dsc_1768sThe drum is rotated to load a cartridge.



dsc_1771sThe extractor is actuated when the drum is pushed all the way down.



dsc_1774sNot the metal pistol grip




dsc_1761sBrass butt plate

dsc_1762sbayonet support

dsc_1763csThey were numbered to the rifle


On February 18,1868 the United States patent office granted a patent to J. Werndl , No. 74,737.

This the US patent for the rifle.



This is a great color plate of the Werndl, from the book listed below.




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Update on the router table

This last weekend more work was accomplished on the router table. As with the rest of the project we recycled as much as possible. The molding was added to the cabinet. Starting with a piece of an old oak cabinet that was cut over sized and planed to the proper dimension.



With any luck the larger drawers with be installed this next weekend

Weekend update 10-2-16

If you had been at Gun Lab’s work site you would know that space in any of the shops is at a premium. And none is worse then the fab shop. Just about everything that can have wheels does. To do any kind of work in this shop you actually have to spend most of your productive work time moving stuff out of the way to do what you wanted to do.

This is what the fab shop turned into, a cluttered impossible to work in shop.



A while back, over a year now, I started working on doing a little addition to the fab shop. This added space will be a great help in the shop.




dsc_0030sWith all the supports up and the steel in place all we  now need to do in add concrete.

dsc_0199sWell this weekend the slab was finally laid.

dsc_2563sA total of 9 yards of fun happened on Saturday.

Gun Building Site

I came across another gun builder here in the Phoenix area and made arrangements to meet up with him. What some of you may not know is that I happen to like all types of firearms, from match locks to modern machine guns. I also like to look at how firearms are made. So when I had the opportunity to do a meet up I jumped at it.

I find it amazing what can be built with nothing more then just basic hand tools.

Here are a few pictures of some underhammer weapons that he made with a drill press and files.

Underhammer shotgun he made.

dsc_1692csA real simple fire control group.

dsc_1693sUnderhammer pistol


dsc_1695sClose up of a couple of his fire control groups



You should check out his site. He has some very nice toys that he has made for himself.

Router Table update

I spent most of this weekend working on my router table. The VG1-5 is coming along and one of the major next steps is the stock for the rifle. I need the router table to do this. I did not have much of an opportunity to work on it last weekend, so it was full steam ahead this weekend. I finished all the drawers and built the cabinet.

The three larger drawers need drawer runners and they have not been installed yet.


dsc_2438csI had one set of drawer runners. Now I have to actually but something for this project, 2 more sets.

dsc_2445sWent through my pile of drawer runners and none of them are heavy duty enough.

dsc_2446sThere are enough spots for short and long 1/2 and 1/4 router bits.


dsc_2448sHope to have the drawer runners mounted as well as the trim put on next weekend. I still have to make the table and cut all the openings.